Single Channel Packet Forwarder part 1 [Deprecated]

BoRRoZ · December 8, 2015, 1:09pm

ja dat zijn ze

ursm · December 8, 2015, 1:13pm

thanks for the module adapter links. ordered
now I’ve to wait for the RFM92

filip · December 8, 2015, 1:47pm

Great !

I was looking for a cheap solution to complement a full gateway. I plan to perform some tests on location using triangulation, so I need 3 gateways. Could also be useful in ‘closed usergroup’ scenario’s.
I have one mobile node with GPS & LoRa; also considering building a couple of ‘static’ nodes (only LoRa, no GPS but fixed location) to be used as calibration/compensation nodes (think heavy rain, mist, other environmental factors)

thanks for sharing,

Filip.

telkamp · December 8, 2015, 5:07pm

Sorry to bring you the sad news, but you won’t be able to do localisation with this gateway (nor with any other current generation gateway).

It really isn’t a replacement for a real gateway for operational purposes, but still great for testing purposes.

filip · December 8, 2015, 6:18pm

Hi Thomas,

could you please elaborate on this ?
Getting RSSI and SNR should be sufficient if you have the (fixed) location of the gateway.
e.g. on loriot.io , I get this:
Last radio 868.300 MHz SNR 10.8 dB RSSI -95 dBm SF11 125kHz

What am I missing ?

thanks for clarifying,

Filip.

Batilan · December 8, 2015, 9:38pm

@onkelflip I guess the “real thing” with regard to geolocation in sensor networks will use multilateration. See also this article for some background information on different geolocation techniques.

There is also a discussion on this forum about this subject. Any questions or suggestions with regard to geolocation are best addressed in such a topic. (lets keep this focussed on the great little gateway that @Thomas provided )

popcorn · December 9, 2015, 7:06pm

Thanks for sharing Thomas. Great I will get a Pi soon…

I have my ESP8266 nodeMCU @ PFLab (S2M Utrecht)

Soon we will have the $5,- Pi’s from Jurjen in the Lab :D.

I have some rfm95 (also working with litle software mod). So when you in Utrecht, you can send me PM for a rfm95 :D.

I dont get the localisation, cant we set it somehow in your software, and simulate it?? When we know where the gateway is??

Batilan · December 9, 2015, 11:35pm

Hi @Thomas

A big thanks for your code!, I took a Raspberry, an RFM92W and a few jumber wires to the Lorawan Eindhoven Tech & Sensor workshop. We were able to build the gateway (not as nice as yours), get the code running and receive sensor packets. Unfortunately the Kerlink didn’t seem to forward the packets, but using your code we could show packets were actually received. So a fruitful evenening after all :-).

Now that I have a working gateway I will start on the code so it can be used with different parameters without having to change the code.

telkamp · December 10, 2015, 9:17am

Nice to hear! Thanks for your support in enhancing the code.

telkamp · December 15, 2015, 9:10am

Now supports RFM95W too.

ursm · December 16, 2015, 3:03pm

I could not wait for the other boards, so I built one with the xbee board. now I can change the radios easily.
thanks @Thomas for the code
but it forwards packages only all 8 minutes. is that working as designed???
it would also be nice if the message would be visible in plain in the local output.

ursm · December 17, 2015, 9:38am

@Thomas or somebody else familiar with the code …
following the (shortened) output from my gateways console and from the node REST.
as mentioned above, I see all 30 seconds a status update but only all 8 minutes a package receive although I send with my node each minute.
could please somebody give me an explanation or an advice/instruction to patch the code?
I didn’t there seen any “delay” .
Thanks!
.
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…
stat update: {“stat”:{“time”:“2015-12-17 07:23:30 GMT”,“lati”:47.43000,“long”:8.54000,“alti”:450,“rxnb”:0,“rxok”:0,“rxfw”:0,“ackr”:0.0,“dwnb”:0,“txnb”:0,“pfrm”:“Single Channel Gateway”,“mail”:“mail@me.ch”,“desc”:“my private development server”}}
Packet RSSI: -97, RSSI: -116, SNR: 9, Length: 63
rxpk update: {“rxpk”:[{“tmst”:3869498330,“chan”:0,“rfch”:0,“freq”:868.100000,“stat”:1,“modu”:“LORA”,“datr”:“SF7BW125”,“codr”:“4/5”,“lsnr”:9,“rssi”:-97,“size”:63,“data”:“QKoBSFoA7wEB8N5cvB9g2WCKU0aGAS/o7Z5HiolUjz8LaqQCH7yhHBvFGlonf6lButBuLxcha6flouZ0AFI0”}]}
stat update: {“stat”:{“time”:“2015-12-17 07:24:00 GMT”,“lati”:47.43000,“long”:8.54000,“alti”:450,“rxnb”:1,“rxok”:1,“rxfw”:0,“ackr”:0.0,“dwnb”:0,“txnb”:0,“pfrm”:“Single Channel Gateway”,“mail”:“mail@me.ch”,“desc”:“my private development server”}}
…
…

{
    "time": "2015-12-17T08:10:13.699Z",
    "data_plain": "2015/12/17 08:11 4725.764N  832.437E              ",
    "gateway_eui": "B827EBFFFFE05FEF",
    "data": "MjAxNS8xMi8xNyAwODoxMSA0NzI1Ljc2NE4gIDgzMi40MzdFICAgICAgICAgICAgICA=",
    "data_raw": "QKoBSFoAHwIB/aBdU8ruNpft4Ev1jUbwYPrqVTcsLkdQ8l16mNY2KLwGUYR7idwVy6mhMLXaFmtJZgdFlhw2",
    "node_eui": "5A4801AA"
},

Batilan · December 17, 2015, 10:22am

Hi @ursm

It might help if you provide (a link to) the source code you are using.

Ar you using sendReqAck or send, what channel/frequency are you using?

ursm · December 17, 2015, 10:31am

node: https://github.com/tftelkamp/arduino-lmic-v1.5 with reading/sending GPS-position
gateway: https://github.com/tftelkamp/single_chan_pkt_fwd unmodified
to make it clear: on a “real” gateway I see all messages (each minute), only with this Single Channel Gateway was this phenomena
node log from a real gateway in Zurich:
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{
    "time": "2015-12-15T18:09:53.460Z",
    "data_plain": "2015/12/15 18:11 4723.521N  830.888E              ",
    "gateway_eui": "FFFEB827EBA00A83",
    "data": "MjAxNS8xMi8xNSAxODoxMSA0NzIzLjUyMU4gIDgzMC44ODhFICAgICAgICAgICAgICA=",
    "data_raw": "QKoBSFoAKQAB//+vfSjIJGNG0vrZFQYZkyFRGcmXmR65+Qzx46JXWNCzcuwZApjUvzxdu7ZrN0qw+p4YFHUF",
    "node_eui": "5A4801AA"
},

Batilan · December 17, 2015, 11:37am

Are you able to monitor the serial port output? If your sketch is based on thethingsnetwork-send-v1.ino then it will log the channel on which it is sending. My guess is that it uses several frequencies. As this is a Single Channel Gateway only 1 frequency is monitored / received.

telkamp · December 17, 2015, 11:48am

Your node is sending at 8 frequencies, your gateway is receiving at only 1, hence the one packet per 8 minutes.

This is not a real gateway, it is for testing purposes. It is LoRaWAN compatible, but not compliant.

ursm · December 17, 2015, 1:21pm

reading and understanding the headline is always a good idea.
and I did not recognize that the node changes the channel each time it sends a packet.
thanks @Thomas , @Batilan for their explanation

popcorn · December 23, 2015, 3:40pm

@Thomas
Should we give the Testing gateway a specific mac-adress?
https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/www-ttnmap-org-alpha/891/3

Maybe something start / end → MAC: “1CHA” ??

telkamp · December 23, 2015, 4:14pm

@popcorn Please don’t make up your own prefixes. The single channel gateway now uses MAC-48 to EUI-64 conversion for the gateway ID.

Gateways send a platform field in their stat updates, that can be used to identify the type. We should make that available in the API for this purpose.

popcorn · December 23, 2015, 4:55pm

Thanks. I will wait a bit for that :D.